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Thorium, a Readily Available and Slightly Radioactive Mineral, Could Provide the World with Safer, Clean Energy

March 16, 2010

Thorium-based reactors could be more efficient and create less waste than today’s uranium-based generating plants.

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Authored by:
Kirk Sorensen
Nuclear-engineering graduate student
Univ. of Tennessee
Madison, Ala.

Edited by Stephen J. Mraz
stephen.mraz@penton.com

Resources:
Energy from Thorium, www.energyfromthorium.com

Thorium Energy Alliance, www.thoriumenergyalliance.com

From the early 1950s to the mid-1970s, an active R&D program at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tenn. came up with a promising way to use thorium for making large amounts of energy cleanly and safely. It was based on a revolutionary kind of nuclear reactor that uses liquid rather than solid fuel. Liquid fuel has significant theoretical advantages in operation, control, and processing over solid fuel, but a basic question had to be answered: “Will it work?”

To that end, Oak Ridge engineers built four liquid-fueled reactors. Two used water-based liquids, and two were based on liquid fluoride salts. The water-based reactors had to operate at high pressures to generate the temperatures needed for economical power generation. They could also dissolve uranium compounds, but not those containing thorium, which made fuel reprocessing as complicated for the water-based rectors as it is for solid-fueled versions.

The fluoride reactors had neither of these drawbacks. They could operate at high temperature without pressurization. They could also dissolve both uranium and thorium in their fluoride-salt mixtures, and the mixtures were impervious to radiation damage due to their ionic bonds. Therefore, Oak Ridge engineers opted to concentrate on the technically superior liquid-fluoride-salt approach in future R&D.

In the late 1960s, however, the director of Oak Ridge National Lab, Alvin Weinberg, was fired by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission for his advocacy for this type of reactor and his efforts to enhance the safety of conventional light-water reactors, a design he had patented. With Weinberg’s departure, the AEC squashed research in liquid-fluoride reactors in favor of liquid-sodium-metal-cooled fast breeder reactors, which were based on converting conventional uranium to plutonium. Technical overlap between the two programs was almost nonexistent, so after cancellation, research into liquid-thorium reactors faded away.

Interest in thorium reactors has undergone a significant resurgence in the last few years. Despite the lack of funding, individual efforts continue to advance the technology. This “open-source” effort has been greatly aided by the Internet and the vast amount of research done by government scientists and engineers.

Thorium basics
Thorium is a naturally occurring, mildly radioactive element. To use it in reactors, thorium must absorb neutrons, a process that eventually converts it to an artificial isotope of uranium, uranium-233. U-233 is fissile, and when it absorbs a neutron it generally fissions, releasing two or three neutrons plus a million times more heat (energy) than burning an equivalent mass of fossil fuel. It takes two neutrons to release energy from thorium and U-233 can supply them, which means it is theoretically possible to sustain energy release from thorium indefinitely. This is the basis of a thorium reactor.

Another approach to thorium
Thorium as a nuclear fuel has been proposed for a variety of different nuclear reactors. One approach is to use solid thorium-oxide fuel rods in existing water-cooled nuclear reactors. This was demonstrated in the Shippingport nuclear reactor in the late 1970s and is currently advocated by a company called Lightbridge, McLean, Va. (www.ltbridge.com). Used in conventional reactors, thorium increases fuel performance by allowing longer fuel burn up, but the gains are nowhere near the improvement possible in LFTRs. That’s because the thorium fuel would have to be reprocessed to extract more of its energy, and reprocessing thorium oxide fuel is substantially more difficult than reprocessing uranium oxide fuel, a procedure that is not currently cost effective.

Recent efforts focuses on a concept called the Liquid-Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR, pronounced “lifter”). In a LFTR, the reactor vessel contains two types of liquid-fluoride salts. One, the fuel salt, holds the fissile fuel (U-233) that sustains the nuclear reaction. The other, the blanket salt, has enough thorium to absorb about half of the neutrons from fission and produce more U-233.

The blanket salt also shields the reactor vessel from neutron damage and gamma-ray irradiation. As thorium in the blanket converts to U-233, it is physically transferred to the fuel salt, where it fissions, releasing neutrons and heat. Heat moves to a coolant salt outside the core, then to the working fluid of a closed-cycle gas-turbine engine to generate electricity. Waste heat can be rejected to either air or water, depending on the availability of cooling water. Waste heat could also be used to, for example, desalinate seawater, letting it profitably produce potable water.

How it works
There are some key requirements for the fuel and blanket salts. They must:

• be chemically stable
• be impervious to radiation
• have little appetite for neutron absorption
• be able to dissolve significant amounts of uranium, thorium, and fission products
• have minimal melting temperatures
• have high heat capacities.

Fortunately, chemists long ago identified a mix of lithium and beryllium fluoride salts that fits the bill. One main ingredient is lithium fluoride (LiF), which is highly enriched in lithium-7. This isotope makes up 90% of natural lithium and has almost no propensity to absorb neutrons. The other ingredient is beryllium difluoride (BeF2). It is toxic and must be used carefully, but is well understood by beryllium manufacturers. (This mix, lithium fluoride and beryllium fluoride (LiF-BeF2) is sometimes called “FLiBe.”)

Uranium tetrafluoride (UF4) is dissolved in the FLiBe fuel salt, while thorium tetrafluoride (ThF4) is dissolved in the blanket salt. Both mixtures have a volumetric heat capacity comparable to that of water (or four times that of liquid sodium and 2,000 times that of helium). This means reactors can be smaller than conventional ones with the same power output.

The coolant salt could be a variety of different mixtures, but the leading candidate is currently a mix of lithium fluoride, sodium fluoride, and potassium fluoride (LiF-NaF-KF), sometimes called “FLiNaK”. Coolant salt pumped through the primary heat exchanger pulls heat out of the fuel salt, then gives up that heat to a gaseous working fluid in the gas heaters.

The closed-cycle gas turbine could be based on a variety of different pure gases or gas mixtures. It differs from other gas turbines proposed for nuclear reactors because the gas in the turbine never directly cools the nuclear fuel itself. This is referred to as an indirect rather than a direct gas-turbine cycle, which has been proposed for pebble-bed and gas-cooled solid-fueled reactors.

Indirect gas turbines have several advantages over direct versions. For example, the gas never has to withstand the damaging neutronic environment of the reactor. Contamination concerns, which bedeviled nuclear-gas-turbine efforts such as pebble-bed reactors, are also nearly eliminated by keeping the gas away from the reactor fuel. Indirect turbines also let the core operate at ambient pressure even though the gas loop is at high pressure. The coolant salt that separates the gas and fuel salt prevents pressurization of the fuel salt in case of a gas leak into the coolant by blowing out check valves, thus preventing core pressurization.

The gas-turbine approach for LFTR could use nitrogen as a working fluid, which is essentially identical to air for design purposes. This would let engineers apply their vast knowledge of open-cycle, air-based gas turbines, saving time and money.

In the closed-cycle gas-turbine approach, the gas must be heated and cooled externally. Heating comes from the reactor’s coolant salt. Cooling, on the other hand, will come from using either air or water as a heat sink. If air is used, the gas-to-gas heat exchangers will be large, but the reactor will not need local cooling water. This would let LFTRs be built in arid regions and other locations traditionally not able to handle nuclear plants because of scarce water supplies.

If water cools the gas in the turbine, the heat exchangers (and capital costs) will be much smaller. And using seawater as a coolant opens further possibilities. Currently, power plants using steam for power conversion must reject heat through the plant’s condenser isothermally (at a constant temperature). So to improve efficiency at these plants, condensation is done at pressures far below atmospheric pressure and at extremely low densities. This leads to large equipment, large capital costs, and the need for lots of cooling water.

A LFTR’s gas cooling, on the other hand, rejects heat from about 100°C down to about 30°. In properly built heat exchangers, the waste heat could be used to distill seawater into fresh water. Multiple-stage distillation at different pressures would even let this waste heat be “reused” several times to get even more fresh water. Thus LFTR plants in coastal regions could send both electricity and fresh water to local consumers.

Burning it all up
The temperatures at which LFTRs operate (700 to 800°C) let their power-conversion system hit efficiency levels of nearly 50%, compared to only 35% for conventional nuclear plants. And the efficiency at which a LFTR converts thorium into heat lets utilities get 200 to 300 times more useful energy of out of a kilogram of thorium than they can from a kilogram of uranium.

Current uranium-fueled reactors can only extract a small amount of uranium’s potential energy before it becomes too badly damaged from radiation and depleted of fissile content. Currently, technicians remove the spent and damaged uranium and it is stored until eventual disposal. The fuel could be reprocessed using conventional methods such as plutonium-uranium extraction (Purex) to remove fissile material and refabricate new fuel elements. But these techniques are expensive and only improve the energy payoff by a few more percent. To access all the energy in uranium fuel requires a fast breeder reactor, which costs significantly more than a conventional uranium reactor. Thus utilities have powerful incentives to use fresh uranium, extracting only a small amount of energy before throwing it away.

LFTRs, on the other hand, can profitably extract essentially all of thorium’s energy without complicated reprocessing or excessive capital costs. This is because the fuel type and reactor configuration would be specifically chosen to simplify fuel processing. As uranium-233 fuel forms in the LFTR’s blanket, it can be removed easily by sparging with fluorine gas in an external fluorination column. This converts the uranium tetrafluoride (UF4) in solution into gaseous uranium hexafluoride (UF6). UF6 percolates out of the blanket and is directed to the fuel salt, where it is reduced back to UF4 by hydrogen gas in a reduction column. The HF created during reduction is electrolytically split back into H2 and F2 to provide reactants for the process all over again.

Within the fuel salt, gaseous fission products such as xenon are released during fission that can “poison” the fission process and make changing power settings quite difficult. All high-power civilian reactors have to fight xenon poisoning during power level changes, and grid blackouts are especially troublesome. If a conventional nuclear reactor is shut down for more than a few hours because of a blackout, it has to remain shut down for about a day to let the xenon decay sufficiently before it can be restarted.

In LFTRs, xenon comes out of solution as the fuel salt is pumped, letting it be removed effortlessly and disposed of properly. This lets the reactor respond quickly and effectively to changes in power settings and changes in the power grid.

LFTRs also address the problem of fission products building up. The LiF-BeF2-UF4 fuel salt accumulates fission products which need to be removed every year or so. This could be done by removing the valuable uranium-233 from the salt by fluorination, as was mentioned previously, leaving a “bare” salt of FLiBe and fission products. Then in a high-temperature distillation still, the LiF and BeF2 are volatilized and separated from the remaining fission products. LiF, BeF2, and UF4 are then recombined to reform the fuel salt which is reintroduced into the reactor. The remaining fission products contain valuable stable minerals such as neodymium, lanthanum, and praseodymium which can be separated and used commercially.

And one of LFTR’s major benefits is that because it completely “uses up” the thorium, there is relatively little nuclear waste.

The fuel choices, reactor configuration, and power conversion system of LFTR have all been chosen to make efficient energy from thorium a reality. It will take research, substantial development effort, and national will to achieve this goal, but the payoff will be immense. A world powered by thorium safely for many tens of thousands of years is the goal of those working to realize the potential of thorium.

There’s thorium in them thar hills
Thorium is more common in the Earth’s crust than tin, tungsten, mercury, or silver, not to mention uranium. Out of a cubic meter of average crust, there is the equivalent of about 40 gm or four sugar cubes of thorium. This is enough thorium to provide enough electricity to fully support one person for about 10 to 15 years if completely fissioned to release its energy.

Our current regulatory environment requires that mined thorium be considered “waste” and disposed of at great expense. In fact, the U.S. has buried 3,200 metric tonnes of refined thorium nitrate in the Nevada desert due to the lack of demand.

It’s estimated that there are 160,000 tons of thorium that could be dug out of the U.S. And it’s easy to find the element on other planets such as Mars. In fact, our Moon has as much as the Earth. To make matters even simpler, the increased demand for rare-earth elements such as neodymium and samarium will lead to large amounts of available thorium in the near future because it is commonly found alongside these elements.

Comments

Thorium LFTR nuclear reactors

I am concerned about the the details being provided on the LFTR technology on this website. Since the Internet serves to democratize access and speed dissemination of information, I am asking for restraint in giving out too many details of this technology.

Lets not make it easier to those who mean ill will to cause ill to usl.

Nuclear generation of electricty

I live in Australia and am frustrated that a country that has an
alleged 40% of the world's known reserves of Uranium, despite
a chronic problem with CO2 emissions from generating elec-
tricty from coal, does not take advantage of its natural resources
and develop a nuclear industry. Instead it prefer to sell its Uran
ium and attempt to develop alternatives which may take years
to come to fruition if ever, would appear to be total madness!
There is a suggestion that nuclear power is too dangerous. Yet
France and Italy are possibly amongst the most popular Euro-
pean destinations for tourists, including those from Australia,
which hardly suggests that they consider them to be dangerous..
The facts are of course that many thousands of people die
every year as a result of coal fired generation of elec-
tricity, whilst deaths from nuclear generation can barely be
measured!!

Thorium, as well as uranium,

Thorium, as well as uranium, can be used as a nuclear fuel.The most common source of thorium is the rare earth phosphate mineral, monazite, which contains up to about 12% thorium phosphate, but 6-7% on average. Monazite is found in igneous and other rocks but the richest concentrations are in placer deposits, concentrated by wave and current action with other heavy minerals.

Literature on LFTR

I am a fan of LFTR and would like to study it further.
However all the diagrams and schematics I have come across
provide only very basis information about how the seed and blanket system might work and how the [matured ?] fuel is moved from the blanket side to the seed side.
A list of the 10 outstanding technical problems awaiting solvability would be of great interest

Safet Point

One safety feature not discussed in the article is that a liquid salt reactor is more stable than solid fuel/control rod design because as the salt heats the lower density reduces the rate of neutron capture, and the reaction slows. In essence, it has a negative feedback loop for the reaction, and runaway reactions are much lower in potential occurance.

nuclear power

At a arate of 77 million Barrels a day, oil is due to run out in approximately 40 years and alternative energy is a must regardless of Global Warming.
The Thorium Reactor sounds Excellent but I have to ask has anyone thought about religious lunatics and the impact on the environment if they are successful in blowing up a nuclear power station. If we have wind power & Photovoltaics we have relatively low impact on the environment what ever happens.

Renewable energy is a disaster, and that is why we need thorium.

The greatest threat to our security is not terrorism, but global overpopulation combined with our government's counterproductive interest in "renewable energy." The public has been misled into believing that renewable energy is a good thing, but the provable facts show just the opposite. Hobbits may be able to live poetically, generating energy from the wind, the sun, and the soil. The true facts show that real human beings living in an industrialized civilization need highly concentrated nonrenewable energy to survive.

Renewable energy leads to food supply collapse

Renewable energy schemes other than hydroelectric power take up too much land area and produce far too little energy to be of any economic value. Biofuels are the worst disaster of the 21st century, causing the starvation deaths of millions of people worldwide by displacing food production. Biofuel farming erodes topsoil, causes water pollution and water shortages, skyrockets the cost of fertilizer, and has accelerated global warning by increasing the release of greenhouse gases. Nitrogen fertilizers used to grow biofuel crops unleash large amounts of nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas estimated to be 296 times more potent than carbon dioxide. Indonesia is now the third largest emitter of carbon dioxide, because burning down forests to grow biofuels releases their carbon content into the atmosphere. Liquid biofuels made from switchgrass, wood chips, or food products are so costly and inefficient to manufacture that they provide little, if any, net energy gain, and cellulosic ethanol is even more expensive to produce than corn ethanol. William Jaeger, an Oregon Science University agricultural economics professor who has studied biofuels extensively, spoke out against biofuel production to the Oregon State Legislature and stated that "Given currently available technologies it is difficult to see the net contribution of biofuels rising above 1% of our current fossil fuel energy consumption - for either Oregon or the U.S."

Solar and wind power schemes are inherently inefficient and expensive because they rely on natural energy sources that are far too diffuse and fluctuating to power an advanced, industrialized civilization. You don't get any solar energy at night; you get less on cloudy days, less in the morning, and less in the late afternoon. That makes large scale solar power schemes horribly inefficient no matter how high we can pump up the theoretical peak output of solar panels. The cost of energy storage systems, batteries and other complex systems on top of high panel costs makes solar impossibly expensive for large scale use. Solar advocates have suggested that we could satisfy 69% of U.S. daytime electricity needs for the year 2050 by covering 34,000 square miles of our Southwestern desert with solar panels, transforming it into a vast DEAD ZONE. Scientist Jesse H. Ausubel, Director of the Program for the Human Environment and author of "Renewable and nuclear heresies," found that to meet 100% of U.S. electricity demand with wind power would require impossible around-the-clock-winds and a wind farm covering an area larger than Texas and Louisiana combined. Solar and wind power schemes are like unreliable, unpredictable employees who only show up for work part of the time, and only when they feel like it.

Economist Michael J. Trebilcock studied wind power and found that wind power is a complete disaster. He points out that the U.S. Government subsidizes wind power at a rate of $23.34 per MWh compared to just $.25 for natural gas, $.44 for coal, $.67 for hydroelectric power, and $1.59 for nuclear power (2008 EIA statistics). Trebilcock discovered that Denmark has over 6,000 wind turbines that supplement its energy grid, but has not been able to close even a single fossil fuel power plant as a result, because extra fossil energy is needed when the wind stops blowing. In 2006 carbon dioxide emissions in Denmark rose by a whopping 36%, showing that large scale wind power projects do not reduce greenhouse gas emissions in real-world situations. Because of wind power, Denmark now has the highest electricity rates in Europe. A recent study of Spain's energy program found that for every job created by state funded wind power schemes, 2.2 jobs were lost due to higher energy costs, and each new wind power job cost almost $2,000,000. in government subsidies.

It is currently politically correct to condemn fossil fuels as evil, but if humans never used fossil fuels there would be no modern medicine, no efficient transportation system, no electronics or modern conveniences, and no large scale human food supply. In a fossil fuel free world we would be stuck in a primitive, stone age society based on subsistence farming, domestic animal grazing, hunting and fishing. That may sound like wholesome bucolic fun until you realize that the average human lifespan would be somewhere between 20 to 35 years, and the total world population would be a billion people at most.

The human food supply was built on highly concentrated fossil fuel energy and cannot be maintained and expanded as needed with weak and inefficient renewable energy schemes. It takes enormous amounts of energy to produce food, and in the largest sense one could say that FOOD EQUALS ENERGY AND ENERGY EQUALS FOOD. The higher we pump up energy costs with idealistic renewable energy schemes, the higher the price we pay for food. Food price inflation has caused climbing death rates around the world, and it is currently estimated that approximately 20,000 children die of malnutrition and related illness every day. The humane way to curb world population growth is to provide universal family planning education and financial incentives for people to have fewer children, not through the intentional starvation of the poor.

It is a mathematically provable fact that the only energy source that is big enough and concentrated enough to practically replace our vast fossil fuel energy reservoir is nuclear power, and carbon free nuclear energy is our only hope for limiting greenhouse gas emissions. The United States Congress is planning to legislate high taxes on CO2 emissions, but if we do not have sufficient nuclear energy capacity to provide us with carbon free energy, such draconian tax schemes will collapse our economy. Instead of taxing already expensive energy and food, our leaders should reduce the red tape required to build nuclear power plants and limit lawsuits against power plant construction.

France relies heavily on nuclear power and has the cleanest air and lowest electricity rates in Europe. You often hear unjustified scare stories about nuclear power, but it has a far better safety record than any fossil fuel and will not produce the kind of massive ecological and food supply destruction caused by biofuels, wind, and solar power schemes. Nuclear power is flexible and can be used to produce superior quality synthetic gasoline and jet fuel using carbon dioxide sucked right out of the atmosphere. Nuclear power can even be used to produce synthetic fertilizers, which currently require large amounts of natural gas to create.

The Energy Information Administration (EIA), which provides official energy statistics from the U.S. Government, has projected the estimated cost of electricity from U.S. power plants of different varieties that will come into service in the year 2016. These average levelized costs, expressed in 2007 valued dollars, includes all costs of construction, financing, fuel, and all other operating and decommissioning costs. The EIA also listed the expected Capacity Factor (CF) for each power plant type. A power plant with a CF of 85 generates energy at its rated capacity an average of 85% of the time during a given year. The ideal power plant would have a CF of 100, meaning it could output energy at full power 100% of the time. As capacity factor drops, economic efficiency drops, usefulness drops, and real-world costs increase. In the comparison below I have inflated the preliminary engineering projected cost of electricity produced by Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors (LFTRs) from 3 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh) to 6 cents per kWh in order to allow for unexpected cost overruns.

Natural Gas in Conventional Combined Cycle @ 8.34 cents per kWh (87 CF) - Not carbon free; small footprint, cost effective and cleanest fossil fuel available.

Conventional Coal @ 9.3 per cents per kWh (85 CF) - Not carbon free; medium footprint, causes approximately 24,000 U.S. deaths per year due to air pollution, which also damages buildings. Judged in total, coal is not cost effective due to the environmental damage it creates.

3rd Generation Light Water Reactor Nuclear Power @ 10.48 cents per kWh (90 CF) - Carbon free; small footprint, very high CF, and cost effective. ***Note - As previously stated, these figures are for new construction projects coming on-line in 2016. Our older legacy light water reactors currently produce electricity at a cost of about 2 cents per kWh.

Geothermal @ 11.67 cents per kWh (90 CF) - Carbon free; high CF, small footprint and cost effective.

Wind @ 11.55 cents per kWh not including the cost of needed energy storage systems (35.1 CF) - Carbon free; extremely large footprint, not cost effective due to unreliability and very low CF. Most wind turbines shut down when wind speeds drop below 3 to 4 meters per second or rise above 25 meters per second, greatly reducing their total average energy output and making their contribution to our nation's energy grid unreliable, unpredictable, and unnecessarily costly.

Solar Thermal Mirror Oven @ 25.75 cents per kWh not including the cost of needed energy storage systems (31.2 CF) - Carbon free, extremely large footprint, not cost effective due to unreliability, high construction cost, and a CF even lower than wind power.

Solar Photovoltaic Panel Power Plant @ 38.54 cents per kWh not including the cost of needed energy storage systems (21.7 CF) - Carbon free; extremely large footprint; very high construction cost; cannot be updated after manufacture, relatively short lifespan, the lowest CF of all. Solar panels are absolutely not cost effective for large scale power production.

Liquid Fluoride Thorium Nuclear Reactor @ 6.0 cents per kWh (over 90 CF) - Carbon free, smallest ecological footprint; highest CF available; highest cost effectiveness. If things go well, the actual eventual cost per kWh may be at or even lower than the original 3 cents per kWh projection.

There are no problem free energy sources, but all of the well known negatives of nuclear power can be addressed and corrected by responsible design and policies. We cannot make the sun shine 24 hours a day, or the wind blow all of the time, so their diffuse and intermittent nature makes them a cost ineffective dead end investment. For information on 100% meltdown proof Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors that do not produce long-lived radioactive waste or contribute to nuclear weapons proliferation, see:
http://thorium.50webs.com

Obviously, the world needs massive amounts of new energy to survive, so unless we adopt responsible energy polices that face facts honestly, the human race has no positive economic future. Our mathematically impossible attempts to replace the highly concentrated energy of fossil fuels with the inherently weak and diffuse energy of wind, solar, and biofuels will cripple our economy and lead to a dramatic, lethal shrinking of the human food supply. For scientific details, see "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at: http://biofuel.50webs.com

Christopher Calder - nonprofit food security advocate, Democrat, not in energy business

The blanket salt also

The blanket salt also shields the reactor vessel from neutron damage and gamma-ray irradiation. As thorium in the blanket converts to U-233, it is physically transferred to the fuel salt.The blog is good source of sharing knowledge.

Thorium reactors

Thorium reactors are basically breeders of uranium 233 which fissions and produces about 2.5 prompt neutrons per fission and roughly the same amount of thermal energy per fission as uranium 235. Uranium 233 is nasty stuff to deal with because it is inevitably contaminated with uranium 232 in the breeding process and uranium 232 has a short (72 year) half life and is a very potent gamma emitter. There are some non-trivial handling problems that need to be addressed here.

thorium reactors handling u232

Yes handling of u232 is difficult, as is handling of intensely radioactive fuel salts that contain fission products, handling 700C salts, and handling of Be in the salts. All these things mean that the fuel salt handling will be remote and automatic.

Fortunately, the salt is a liquid that is easily pumped around (about the same viscosity as water). The intended flow is that once started the reactor operates retaining the u232/u233 in the reactor at all times. You feed in thorium as fuel. You remove fission products on-site and store them on-site for a time to cool.

Most of this was proven out in the late 60's. We have an advantage today in that we are likely to provide more automation and use robotics rather than the long handled tools of yesterday.

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