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Leland Teschler's Editoral: Management by Mythology

November 17, 2009

Leland E. Teschler

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Life is full of mystery. Consider, for example, the mystery of how we got to the point where executives are paid a king’s ransom to run companies into the ground and sell off assets. Equally mysterious is why there is a thriving business in management consulting. What is perhaps the strangest aspect of management consulting is that many of its purveyors are fresh out of business school with no experience in running companies. Statistics show that roughly 25% of top business-school graduates and a significant number of undergrads from elite universities become highly paid recruits for big-name consulting firms.

As former consultant Matthew Stewart puts it, “How can so many who know so little make so much by telling other people how to do the jobs they are paid to know how to do?” Stewart is in a position to ponder this question. He was once one of those highly paid consultants and wrote a book called Management Myths about his consulting escapades. He admits that when recruited fresh out of school, he knew basically nothing about business — his degree was in philosophy. He says his consulting work involved “considerable on-the-job training, all at the expense of large financial institutions who, for reasons that are sometimes difficult to articulate, sought my ....advice on matters having to do with their business strategy.”

Stewart’s brush with management consulting has given him a particularly low opinion of business-school degrees and of highly paid executives. It is troubling that one out of four master’s degrees awarded today are now MBAs, he says, when academic studies have concluded that neither possessing an MBA degree nor getting good grades in MBA courses correlates with career success.

As Stewart puts it, “After all, if it turned out that having an M.D. bore no relationship to an individual’s performance as a doctor, ....questions would have to be asked.”

That statistic also should be of interest to the large number of engineers who, frustrated with their lack of career progress on the technical side of things, opt for business degrees at night. Many, I suspect, would reflect on their experiences in night school and agree with Stewart’s appraisal: Business schools don’t create useful business ideas, and most MBA courses in business strategy amount to little more than reviews of glorified magazine articles. Business courses can make sense of past instances when companies earned healthy profits, but they don’t help predict where or how it will happen in the future.

If business education was just ineffectual, it might not be worth worrying about. But there is evidence it has led to a view of shareholder value that harms society in the long run. As Stewart puts it, “...the shareholder-value model has induced executives to engage in asset stripping — destroying the long-term productive potential of a corporation for the sake of short-term stock-market gains. At a more general level, the dogma implicitly favors a similar kind of asset stripping for society at large — a demolition of the trust on which society is founded. The business schools do worse than train their students in subjects that do not exist; they also prepare them to become destructive members of society.”

I suspect most engineers with actual work experience have figured out there is more to life than shareholder value. For those who feel the need to better their business skills, I’d suggest a few courses on accounting and economics and skipping the rest of the three-year night-school MBA saga.

— Leland Teschler, Editor

Comments

MBAs & engineers

I have an MBA and I find it helpful, possibly more in my personal life. A curriculum that espouses maximization of profits @ the expense of sustainability, the environment and the overall cosequences is toxic.

Education or Experience

This is a doubled edge sword. You cannot get the position without the degree and you cannot get the job without the experience. Very few Human Resource Professionals will move a resume through that does not have both. Consequently, some Ivy League MBA graduates obtain positions within large firms or organizations through contacts at the top and seldom obtain real world experience, yet they are rapidly promoted and placed into key positions for which they have not learned the cost of potential failure, the effect on people and the organization that is created by not obtaining real world experience. As a Director of Operations, I screen the resumes, select people to interview; HR handles the background checks, prepares offers, and coordinates meetings and other items as required. I base my hiring on the individual and their commitment to becoming their personal and professional best, and then I encourage their growth through experience and education.

I do not just look at experience, nor do I just look at education. I have met managers with 20 years experience that could not tell me what a cost center was or had them make comments when asked to attend team leadership training saying “I am a manager, are you going to demote me, Is that why you want me to attend team leader training” (Sad, but true) Conversely I have had graduate students who could not stray away from the educational theories and put a action plan in place.

Mgmt. by Mythology - Sad but true

I've always been concerned that the "Mgmt. by MBA metrics" graduates feel that the specific industry they're in really doesn't matter nor does it matter that they really dig in and learn about that industry. Too many have been short termers moving on to the next company or industry to "practice in".

"The map is not the territory"

"The map is not the territory" by Alfred Korzybski is one of my favorite quotes. It applies to a lot of things in life including freshly minted B school grads. Until one has lived in a company / industry for a while they don't have a full understanding and appreciation of the interdependencies that may exist between those "silos" that all companies eventually build as they grow. Academic understanding is great, and really a prerequisite, but there is no substitute for experience within your own company as well as developing an understanding how other companies, both good and bad, perform, or don't. Too often these days we fall for things that are simple, or inexperienced thinking dressed up in a pretty package, like a high powered consulting firm. "The map is not the territory". Nor is an academic understanding, no matter how good, complete enough to understand the reality behind the data.

MBA- Engineer's Ambition or worthless

Much of what I learned in MBA program was intuitively practiced by me before. However, technical skills and yes strategy learning does have value.

What I have found is that the metrics of analyzing an operating company are well taught in a good MBA program. The failure is the metrics of risk to reward in industry.

For example, the AIG sales bonuses were linked to volume, not performance on the target sale. Then we have the toxic assets. All of these actually may have done well if the green quotient was kept in check. The same greed quotient makes fools buy non-performing stocks that have a P/E over 200.

Astute, long range view MBA-Engineers need to know how business is modeled and how to cut out the BS. Without the MBA, your credibility is challengable.

By the way, I went to night school for 2 years.

Value of exporting manufacturing to other countries?

Does a MBA teach the true value of exporting manufacturing to other countries? I can understand the consequences: U.S. companies export jobs, American taxpayers are converted to unemployment recipients, and eventually welfare recipients. Now every taxpayer, including the businessman that exported the jobs must pay additional taxes. And don’t forget the unemployed worker may loose his house, which could devalue the businessman's house.

MBA is necessary for Engineers

I am a MechanicalI Engineer and I did an MBA degree . I strongly belief MBA is necessary for an Engineer as it makes him/her an accomplished business man with improved understand of the role of Engineering in business growth, sustainability and profitability.

Confidence

My experience is that MBA grads are frequently wrong, but seldom in doubt.

The Best of Both Worlds: MEPP

Mr. Teschler, perhaps you could describe why you pursued an MBA in the first place?

One of the best alternatives is to amalgamate an advanced Engineering degree with a dash of Business School: try the University of Wisconsin's Master of Engineering in Professional Practice degree! I have a few friends who are graduates of the program, and have been very pleased with both the experience and with the credibility the degree confers.

To me, a degree that emphasizes management in an engineering sense is the best way to prepare yourself for the responsibility demanded of a mid-to-senior level manager (the same level that most MBAs go back to work as) while sticking to the technical roots that makes one a great engineer and problem-solver in the first place. The program takes only experienced engineers and so provides one of the truly tangible benefits of an MBA program: the networking and cross-pollination of ideas and experiences that are the hallmark of the Business School environment.

Finally, we must dispel one myth about MBA graduates: nearly all of the top programs in the country only take applicants with at least some "real world" work experience under their belts...otherwise, they really can't contribute to the learning experience and sharing of ideas that creates the business theory so often cited by consultants.

It is a fairly common

It is a fairly common occurrence for someone to be bashing the MBA. I haven’t fully decided why that is. Like any degree, the quality largely depends on the program and the professors. That is something that this disenchanted man doesn’t consider. In addition, regardless of the program, I would like to hear the alternate approach. Should we not formally teach executives, accounting, finance, marketing, ethics, supply chain management, or economics? Additionally, this is still a free market economy. As we speak, MBAs are actively being recruited by some of the best and most profitable employers in the world. Naturally, this is something that happens every year. If it were true that these companies did not see value in the MBA-- they would stop recruiting them.

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